Differentiating models by Series - am I the only one that hates this?

What is confusing?

Good, better, best.

Nothing new. Is this really that confusing/bothering you?

May have too much time on your hands

 

OK smart guy. Dan's been here 14 years. You've not. Quit ****ting on threads. Go enjoy whatever you own, and fill out your profile.

 

McLaren, the mid-(rear)engine sport cars factory. They are trying to revitalize and swirl up this market segment with different levels of performance, designs and relatively short product cycles. If you are looking for such a car surely a good address. The model designation is actually easy to understand, a reference to performance/power and purpose. I think they make the best of their current options. Time will tell if this will be enough.

 

Who b ****ting who here? Also, u bossman here?

 

They’re too logical and data driven to not divide their model range into specific categories like organizing a spreadsheet.

 

IPO1 posted a rude response to a couple long time members here and in other threads.
Kizdan and I have been here since 2003.
Neither IPO1 nor you have jack in your profiles. Fill them out until established. Then edit after people know you.
Pretty big cojones to be rude to 14 year (more since previous board) vets.
This is a great board, people that act like trolls get tossed.
I'm not "bossman". But every mod and Rob Lay know me, and Dan. So, get some cred, or someone will send you bye-bye.
So yes, a simple question was treated as idiotic by a couple anonymous noobs. Try that on Rennsport or 4chan little one, see how it goes.

 

No one is trolling. You don't like answers sometimes--that is not trolling. It's called an OPINION.

OP asked for 'comments'. I gave my comment--you don't like it?. This is how forums work. People reply. You don't get to control people. You really are high strung and combative in most of your replies. Try decaf.

I didn't know there is a protocol to answering questions based upon how long someone has been here. Give me a break.

Go enjoy your 720. Love that car.

 

Sfumato! Chill please, you sound like a vet who’s seen the most awful atrocities in war and are living life on a hair trigger. Please relax my friend, I’m certain that nobody wishes you any harm of any kind. I’m not sure why my profile is so important to you. Yes, Jack is not in my profile, sorry, but who is Jack? Profile-wise, I’ve been on the registrars (maybe even still) of the FBI, CIA, MI5, KGB and Mossad and I’m still alive. If you’re curious, just Google me. Why are you talking about my testes??? Am I correct in assuming that your use of the word “cojones’” is the slang word for male gonads? Mine, by the way are not overly big, they’re only about 27 mm in diameter (slightly over an inch). Yes, I agree, this is a great board to bounce our diverse opinions around, but I once knew a kid in 4th grade that once said something similar to this to me (But every mod and Rob Lay know me, and Dan. So, get some cred, or someone will send you bye-bye). He was inferring to me that he would have the school principle (his daddy) expell me if I didn’t give him my lunch. I was SO shaken up! He ended up weighing almost 100 kilos at the end of the year on a 4 foot tall frame, very sad, psychologically unstable and ill-equipped to handle the pressures of student life. Who are you referring to above in your message as “little one” may I ask?

 

Dan, ignore is so pleasant.
They gonna bark all day, or they gonna bite?

I bet they have private jets like Gentry, and date Morgan Fairchild Bwahahahahahahahaha

 

Zzzzzz

 

Excuse my ignorance Dan, it’s just that I’m a newbie here too. For my own clarification (and I would imagine for other newbies too), is it okay to use words on this forum like in your message above when insulting and threatening other members on this forum? I specifically refer to your use of the word “smart as-“. In other forums that I am a member of, there is a zero tolerance for the use of discriminatory, insulting and profane language. It is intended to maintain a moral and civilised level of conduct and communication within the forum members and any, ANY, member using such derogatory words would be immediately suspended or dismissed permanently from the forums. Perhaps this forum tolerates such language? Is there a list of profane words available that are not considered profane or that we can use as we amass years of membership on this forum? At which point do we achieve the necessary status to use words like “smart as-“ within our posts? Just being curious my friend. I would never want to use that word in a post to you and risk being penalised. Do you understand me and where I’m coming from? Cheers!

 

Why doesn't everyone just take the night off from this thread?

If I get any more reports on this freakin' piddly thread, I'll just give EVERYONE WHO IS MISBEHAVING A THREAD BAN.

"What's that?" you say.

Simply a ban that blocks you from posting in a specific thread, easy peasy, you're no longer involved in the thread in which you are making dumb ass comments.

And as moderators, we don't show any favoritism. If you're dopey, expect to pay for your dopey-ness, young or old, noob or veteran.

Ok, now if you can't post in here with some decorum, back away from the keyboard.

D

 

I wish everyone a Merry Christmas. Hope that is acceptable (as a newbie of 2 years).

Peace on earth.
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Back to your original post then Dan, let’s bring this tension level down a few notches and be grown-ups about it.

You’re asking for comments? Sure, here are my 2 dinars worth on McLaren’s series and model designations.

I think they’ve absolutely nailed it. I would opine that there is absolutely NOTHING confusing about it. Look at it this way:

Great, Greater, Greatest.

That is how most companies traditionally seperate their ranges, it’s nothing new. You do get that reasoning, right? But why do you say you are a tad confused?

Also, addressing the fact that you say you are not a fan of their model designations...would you be a fan of it being less or more complicated?

For instance, and as a starting point, the numerical values they use (570, 650, 675, 688 and 720) refer to their vehicle’s PS value. PS stands Pferdestärke, literally horse strength in the German language. It’s a metric measurement of horsepower and one PS is the equivalent of 0.986 horsepower. That means that 570 designates 570PS. I can’t simplify the explanation any more than that so I hope it’s fairly clear and unconfusing now. That is, in my view, the simplest way to designate a model. If you prefer a simpler designation, I can only imagine them calling their model ranges the 1, 2 and 3 models. Or perhaps the A, B and C models.

Perhaps the number and letter combination is the confusing part you refer to? They add an S to the number to imply the Sport model (S = Sport), or GT (GT = Gran Touring) or LT (LT = Lots of Testosterone).

Perhaps you would enjoy their model designations much more if they were descriptive names? For example, as Ferrari does with the Enzo, they could instead name their new P1 successor the McLaren Ron. Or the McLaren TheMcLaren. Do you see those as absolutely terrible or absolutely genius designations Dan?

Additionally, and for the lower ranges, they could use local town names, just like Ferrari does with the Modena, Maranello and Fiorano. How would you feel about driving a McLaren Woking or even a McLaren Weybridge or a McLaren Chertsey?

In summary, those are my suggestive, and hopefully informative, comments to your post.

Would you be so kind as to also dump some of your ideas and thoughts here on how you, as a theoretical branding specialist, would direct a successful series and model designation naming assignment? Many people are not creative in this sense but I feel you are because you are obviously very observant to detail and creative people are always great critics. Suggestions? Comments?

 

Well, looks like we're batting .500.

Valentino, you're out of this thread until New Years.

Snide comments are not better than all out hostility.

If you drag this into other threads, then I'll extend it to a site wide ban.

D

 

I don't think new or old should have anything to do with opinions.

Joe

 

I actually find the Mac destinations much easier -- my opinion.

What the heck are these?
GTC4Lusso, GTC4LussoT
California, California T
FF
Ferrari 488 (even though 600+ HP)
LaFerrari

And the list goes on.

Mac I think is ingenious to put their cars in three categories and the model designation (650, 720, 570, etc is a good clue of HP). At the end of the day no one is saying 'hey is that a super sports or an 'ultimate'. But it is a good upsell marketing ploy.

Oh well, either way I guess it doesn't bother me.

Happy New Years.

 

Exactly what brand car are we discussing here? A minimum of basic information would be nice. Thank you.

 

Welcome to the 'McLaren' sub forum

 

Of course. Continue on . . . . . this is what I get for last night's partying.

Have fun.